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these_balls) wrote2008-03-06 10:06 am
these_balls) wrote2008-03-06 10:06 am
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FAQ: Breeders
I'm a Breeder. Is that different from a Trainer?
Yes! Breeders begin their journeys sensibly the same way as Trainers, in New Bark Town with a level 5 pokémon. However, their goal is not to gain badges (though they may do so) but instead to breed the best pokémon possible!
Breeder Perks:
- No Badge Necessary to use an HM move! All you need to do is borrow the disc itself from a trainer, and you're set!
- Breeding Shinies! Only registered Breeders can obtain shiny pokémon eggs through breeding.
- Breeding more pokémon than trainers.
Can I breed even if I'm not a Breeder?
Sure, but you won't get as many eggs per clutch. Please refer to the table in the 'egg cycles' section below.
Breeding and Egg Production:
Pokémon do produce eggs, no matter the type. Unlike in the games, you don't need a special location to breed them in; many trainers have been surprised by a clutch of eggs appearing in their hotel rooms! Obviously, a male and female pokémon are required to produce eggs. The resultant eggs have a 75% likelihood of being the mother's species.
To calculate that 75% chance, go here. From there, follow the diagrams found here. (Thanks, Cassie!)
The father helps provide his children's movepools.
Egg moves, you mean?
That's right. To determine a clutch's egg moves, simply adhere to the following rules.
Babies from same-species pairings will inherit:
- Any move both parents know that the babies can learn by leveling up but without evolving.
- Any TM move that the parents know that the babies can learn without evolving.
- Any egg move the father can transmit through breeding; check the wiki page to see under "by breeding" moves. Pichu Example for where you want to look.
Babies who are the father's species will inherit:
- Any move both parents know that the babies can learn by leveling up but without evolving.
- Any TM move that mother knows that the babies can learn without evolving.
- Any egg move the father can transmit through breeding; check the wiki page to see under "by breeding" moves. Pichu Example for where you want to look.
Babies who are the mother's species will inherit:
- Any move both parents know that the babies can learn by leveling up but without evolving.
- Any TM move that father knows that the babies can learn without evolving.
- Any egg move the father can transmit through breeding; check the wiki page to see under "by breeding" moves. Pichu Example for where you want to look.
For example, Joe breeds his male Dragonite to his female Charizard; the babies will be Charmanders. The Dragonite knows Flamethrower, Outrage, and learned Rest via TM. The Charizard also knows Flamethrower. Since they'll learn Flamethrower growing up, these Charmanders will be born with it. On the Charmander page, one of the possible moves they can inherit from a Dragonite father is Outrage, so they'll get that, too. Finally, because they can also learn the TM move Rest, they'll get that as well. Not bad for a head start, huh?
Unlike in the games, pokémon in Route aren't limited to four moves, so go crazy. However, like in the games, there are pokémon, such as Magikarp, that can't learn any moves through breeding, so be sure to check! HM moves count as TM moves for the purposes of Route breeding.
Do note that when either of the parents is a Ditto the clutch will never have any egg moves.
What are egg groups?
Egg groups limit the kind and number of pokémon your pokémon can mate with to produce eggs. Checking is simple and done by looking up your pokémon on Bulbapedia or any pokémon wiki. Both pokémon must be in the same egg group, but not necessarily the same species, to breed. For instance, Skitty (Field/Fairy Groups) might breed with Wailord (Field/Water2 Groups) but not with Skarmory (Flying Group).
What about egg cycles?
Egg cycles are an indicator of that pokémon's rarity: typically, the higher the number of cycles, the rarer that pokémon is and the less eggs it will give out each month. Trainers may breed pokémon, just as breeders may earn badges; but trainers only get half the monthly allotment of eggs that breeders do. To find out how many eggs your pokémon can produce, just look here:
The mother's egg cycles trump the father's, and in a Ditto mating, the non-Ditto's egg cycles do.
So what do I do with the eggs once I have them?
Usually, you sell them. If this clashes with your beliefs you can give them to your friends ortake responsibility raise the babies yourself.
What's a Ditto and why should I get one?
Ditto is every breeder's lynchpin. That's because it can breed with any pokémon, of any egg group, of any gender. The downside? No egg moves from a Ditto coupling. Pokémon born from a Ditto 'mother' will be of the father's species.
Can a shiny pokémon have shiny babies?
Only registered Breeders can obtain shiny pokémon eggs through breeding. A trainer may attempt to breed their shiny pokémon, but this will never result in a shiny egg, no matter how often they try. The chances of a shiny offspring are 1/50 (2%) with one shiny parent, and 1/25 (4%) with two shiny parents, per egg. We leave it up to the individual breeders to calculate the possibility for each clutch; here is an easy template!
Is there anything different, appearance-wise, about a shiny egg versus a regular one?
Nope! Shinies are a surprise.
As a breeder, how I can keep a healthy breeding stock of varying Pokémon with a limited number of available Pokémon slots?
Breeders may pool their money and resources together to rent a place on the outskirts of whatever town they choose for breeding Pokémon, though they will not be keeping any of the resulting Pokémon for long. Their total combined allotment is how many Pokemon they will all be able to have collectively. If trainers ask for a breeder to work their magic on their Pokémon, breeders can borrow them until there is an egg. Breeders should remember to tell trainers to stick around, though not particularly in THAT room, until the egg is formed. You can't quite keep the other trainer's Pokémon after all.
If two players agree to let their characters' Pokémon breed, and one character is a trainer and the other is a breeder, how many eggs would they actually end up with? Similarly, since it's possible for breeders to have a small chance at breeding shinies under certain circumstances, but trainers can't, would eggs that came from breeding a trainer's Pokémon with a breeder's have a chance of being shiny or not?
If a Breeder oversees the breeding, even if one of the parents belongs to a trainer, the Breeder's egg count and shiny privilege has the right of way.
Can Nidorina and Nidoqueen be bred?
Yes. (Just not to each other...) They fall into NidoranF's egg groups, Monster and Field.
If a character has an egg (or several) and is carrying it around so that it hatches, does it take up a party slot like in the games? (i.e. if you have one egg, you can only have five more pokemon with you, etc...)
Yes, the egg does take up a slot, per Jenny regulations, seeing as hatching can be unpredictable and six pokémon is the rule.
Does Flame Body and Magma Armor have the effect of reducing the time it takes an egg to hatch like they do in the games?
Yep, abilities that work in the games generally work here as well, so Flame Body and Magma Armor for egg-hatching is completely feasible!
If one trainer has both an HM like Fly or Surf and the badge to use it, would they be able to teach it to two of their Pokémon and have the second one carry another trainer who doesn't have the badge to be able to use it?
We're going with YES on this one, provided the original trainer was present during the ride!
for Pokemon that in the games only produce "baby" versions if holding an incense, is that necessarily the case in route? Like if you breed a Chansey, do you get a Chansey or a Happiny?
Nope, there's no need for incense! That was a retconny thing in the games. Breeding pokémon here will get you the baby form automatically.
Yes! Breeders begin their journeys sensibly the same way as Trainers, in New Bark Town with a level 5 pokémon. However, their goal is not to gain badges (though they may do so) but instead to breed the best pokémon possible!
Breeder Perks:
- No Badge Necessary to use an HM move! All you need to do is borrow the disc itself from a trainer, and you're set!
- Breeding Shinies! Only registered Breeders can obtain shiny pokémon eggs through breeding.
- Breeding more pokémon than trainers.
Can I breed even if I'm not a Breeder?
Sure, but you won't get as many eggs per clutch. Please refer to the table in the 'egg cycles' section below.
Breeding and Egg Production:
Pokémon do produce eggs, no matter the type. Unlike in the games, you don't need a special location to breed them in; many trainers have been surprised by a clutch of eggs appearing in their hotel rooms! Obviously, a male and female pokémon are required to produce eggs. The resultant eggs have a 75% likelihood of being the mother's species.
To calculate that 75% chance, go here. From there, follow the diagrams found here. (Thanks, Cassie!)
The father helps provide his children's movepools.
Egg moves, you mean?
That's right. To determine a clutch's egg moves, simply adhere to the following rules.
Babies from same-species pairings will inherit:
- Any move both parents know that the babies can learn by leveling up but without evolving.
- Any TM move that the parents know that the babies can learn without evolving.
- Any egg move the father can transmit through breeding; check the wiki page to see under "by breeding" moves. Pichu Example for where you want to look.
Babies who are the father's species will inherit:
- Any move both parents know that the babies can learn by leveling up but without evolving.
- Any TM move that mother knows that the babies can learn without evolving.
- Any egg move the father can transmit through breeding; check the wiki page to see under "by breeding" moves. Pichu Example for where you want to look.
Babies who are the mother's species will inherit:
- Any move both parents know that the babies can learn by leveling up but without evolving.
- Any TM move that father knows that the babies can learn without evolving.
- Any egg move the father can transmit through breeding; check the wiki page to see under "by breeding" moves. Pichu Example for where you want to look.
For example, Joe breeds his male Dragonite to his female Charizard; the babies will be Charmanders. The Dragonite knows Flamethrower, Outrage, and learned Rest via TM. The Charizard also knows Flamethrower. Since they'll learn Flamethrower growing up, these Charmanders will be born with it. On the Charmander page, one of the possible moves they can inherit from a Dragonite father is Outrage, so they'll get that, too. Finally, because they can also learn the TM move Rest, they'll get that as well. Not bad for a head start, huh?
Unlike in the games, pokémon in Route aren't limited to four moves, so go crazy. However, like in the games, there are pokémon, such as Magikarp, that can't learn any moves through breeding, so be sure to check! HM moves count as TM moves for the purposes of Route breeding.
Do note that when either of the parents is a Ditto the clutch will never have any egg moves.
What are egg groups?
Egg groups limit the kind and number of pokémon your pokémon can mate with to produce eggs. Checking is simple and done by looking up your pokémon on Bulbapedia or any pokémon wiki. Both pokémon must be in the same egg group, but not necessarily the same species, to breed. For instance, Skitty (Field/Fairy Groups) might breed with Wailord (Field/Water2 Groups) but not with Skarmory (Flying Group).
What about egg cycles?
Egg cycles are an indicator of that pokémon's rarity: typically, the higher the number of cycles, the rarer that pokémon is and the less eggs it will give out each month. Trainers may breed pokémon, just as breeders may earn badges; but trainers only get half the monthly allotment of eggs that breeders do. To find out how many eggs your pokémon can produce, just look here:
| Breeding: a reference. See here for more information on egg cycles. [brackets] are for trainers | ||
| egg cycles | avg. eggs laid /month | time to hatch |
| 6 | 10-12 [5-6] | 2-3 days |
| 11 | 8-10 [4-5] | 4-5 days |
| 16 | 6-8 [3-4] | 4-5 days |
| 21 | 5-6 [2-3] | 7-8 days |
| 26 | 4-5 [2-3] | 10-12 days |
| 31 | 3-4 [2] | 12-14 days |
| 36 | 2-3 [2] | 14-16 days |
| 41 | 1-2 [1] | 18-21 days |
The mother's egg cycles trump the father's, and in a Ditto mating, the non-Ditto's egg cycles do.
So what do I do with the eggs once I have them?
Usually, you sell them. If this clashes with your beliefs you can give them to your friends or
What's a Ditto and why should I get one?
Ditto is every breeder's lynchpin. That's because it can breed with any pokémon, of any egg group, of any gender. The downside? No egg moves from a Ditto coupling. Pokémon born from a Ditto 'mother' will be of the father's species.
Can a shiny pokémon have shiny babies?
Only registered Breeders can obtain shiny pokémon eggs through breeding. A trainer may attempt to breed their shiny pokémon, but this will never result in a shiny egg, no matter how often they try. The chances of a shiny offspring are 1/50 (2%) with one shiny parent, and 1/25 (4%) with two shiny parents, per egg. We leave it up to the individual breeders to calculate the possibility for each clutch; here is an easy template!
Is there anything different, appearance-wise, about a shiny egg versus a regular one?
Nope! Shinies are a surprise.
As a breeder, how I can keep a healthy breeding stock of varying Pokémon with a limited number of available Pokémon slots?
Breeders may pool their money and resources together to rent a place on the outskirts of whatever town they choose for breeding Pokémon, though they will not be keeping any of the resulting Pokémon for long. Their total combined allotment is how many Pokemon they will all be able to have collectively. If trainers ask for a breeder to work their magic on their Pokémon, breeders can borrow them until there is an egg. Breeders should remember to tell trainers to stick around, though not particularly in THAT room, until the egg is formed. You can't quite keep the other trainer's Pokémon after all.
If two players agree to let their characters' Pokémon breed, and one character is a trainer and the other is a breeder, how many eggs would they actually end up with? Similarly, since it's possible for breeders to have a small chance at breeding shinies under certain circumstances, but trainers can't, would eggs that came from breeding a trainer's Pokémon with a breeder's have a chance of being shiny or not?
If a Breeder oversees the breeding, even if one of the parents belongs to a trainer, the Breeder's egg count and shiny privilege has the right of way.
Can Nidorina and Nidoqueen be bred?
Yes. (Just not to each other...) They fall into NidoranF's egg groups, Monster and Field.
If a character has an egg (or several) and is carrying it around so that it hatches, does it take up a party slot like in the games? (i.e. if you have one egg, you can only have five more pokemon with you, etc...)
Yes, the egg does take up a slot, per Jenny regulations, seeing as hatching can be unpredictable and six pokémon is the rule.
Does Flame Body and Magma Armor have the effect of reducing the time it takes an egg to hatch like they do in the games?
Yep, abilities that work in the games generally work here as well, so Flame Body and Magma Armor for egg-hatching is completely feasible!
If one trainer has both an HM like Fly or Surf and the badge to use it, would they be able to teach it to two of their Pokémon and have the second one carry another trainer who doesn't have the badge to be able to use it?
We're going with YES on this one, provided the original trainer was present during the ride!
for Pokemon that in the games only produce "baby" versions if holding an incense, is that necessarily the case in route? Like if you breed a Chansey, do you get a Chansey or a Happiny?
Nope, there's no need for incense! That was a retconny thing in the games. Breeding pokémon here will get you the baby form automatically.
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